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Honesty? From a Politician?

The other day I was driving in my car listening to NPR. I happen to like NPR because they do longform news stories as opposed to just quick hit news that gets repeated every 15 minutes. (I also like listening to their reporters' voices; they have some people with good pipes. It's a weird thing of mine. Sue me.) As I was listening, I heard a story on a deal that President Obama's campaign has offered to the Romney campaign.

Release the past five years of your tax returns, and we won't ask for any more.

That was it. That was the deal. And the more I listened to the story (and it's commentary), the more I thought: this is stupid. On multiple levels.

I'll leave it for you to parse out just how asinine this "deal" is, but I want to move on to my gut reaction. I posted this on Facebook and it turned into a very long comment thread. After hearing this story, my first thought was simply:

I wish Romney would just come out and say, "You know what? I have exploited every loophole in the tax code in order to pay as little tax as possible, because it's good business and perfectly legal. If you don't like it, then let's light a fire under Congress' butt and get the tax code changed to something that makes sense for everybody."

I said it then, and I'll say it now: if Romney came out with that kind of honesty, I'd vote for the man just on the strength of that statement alone. Because instead of playing to perceptions, the man would be dealing in facts. And that's the kind of president I want.

Heck, I'd take that level of honesty from any politician, regardless of party affiliation.

Unfortunately, this will never happen. Politics has become marketing and nothing more. Spin. Damage control. Attack ads. Response to attack ads. What does your running mate say about you? Does charcoal gray make you look official or does it make you look stuffy? How many likes can your Facebook page get?

I laughed when I read the slew of articles suggesting that the selection of Paul Ryan made this a campaign about substance over style. Really? The fact that the main point of the articles was that picking Ryan "said" this was a substantive campaign merely illustrates my point.

Bring me the politician crazy enough to lay everything on the table and say, "Go ahead. Look around. Tell me what you like and what you don't like. Pick away at my past, my mistakes, my faults, my fears. Because when you do that, you'll get to the core of who I am as a person, and that will tell you far more about how I will govern than any stump speech ever will."

How refreshing would that be? Imagine a candidate on one of the talking head shows, sitting there with nothing to hide, answering tough questions instead of obfuscating and spinning?

Talking Head: I see that when you were in college you smoked weed. Is that true?

Honest Politician: Yes.

TH: Uh, did you like it?

HP: At the time.

TH: Do you still smoke weed?

HP: No.

TH: Uh...um... (pause) Okay. Next question. You made a lot of money. Did you pay taxes on it?

HP: Yes.

TH: Did you pay a lot of taxes on it?

HP: No, because the tax code sucks.

And so on. Perhaps I'm just weird, but I would find that scintillating to watch simply because it would actually matter. It would tell me something about the person running for office, something I could hang my hat on.

Instead, I get stories about deals over issues that don't tell me anything. Sure, Romney's tax records may reveal that he didn't pay taxes and got away with it, but other than stoking the fires of jealousy among folks who paid taxes and wish they didn't or didn't pay taxes but got caught, what's the point of that information? That he's filthy rich? Didn't I already know that? And isn't just about everyone who runs for office at that level of government?

We're a nation in need of leaders who can offer solutions, not just soundbites. Who can bring leadership and common sense to bear on the challenges that face us. We are in desperate need of someone who can look at both sides of the aisle, call them on their ideological manure and inspire them to do what is right for the majority of Americans. Someone who can speak with honesty and clarity about the issues we face and the necessary changes we would all have to make in order to make this nation truly united.

Give me one honest politician. Just one. That's all I ask.

Too bad Abe Lincoln is off hunting vampires. We could use him in the White House again.

DavidE

11:08 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Gary Johnson is running a clean and honest campaign for POTUS.

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Jason Brooks

11:16 am on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Thanks, David. I've not heard of Mr. Johnson's campaign. I'll look him up.

DavidE

7:16 pm on Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Sadly, many people haven't.. They only hear about The Dems and Reps from the media..

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Sharon Swanepoel

11:47 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

I did a survey the other day and l learned that, based on my answers, he's the candidate I should be voting for. Too bad he's still fighting to get on the ballot.

Robert J. Nebel

9:03 am on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Gov. Johnson ran in the Republican presidential primary this year. He was a successful governor from New Mexico. I believe he was allowed into a few debates and was given a little air time.

Here's an interesting piece on Gary Johnson: http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201111/gary-johnson-republican-candidate-debate-interview

Gov. Johnson has a Georgia supporter page:
http://www.facebook.com/GeorgiaGJ

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George Wilson

2:09 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@JasonBrooks
journalists are such idealists. This imaginary political figure you envision want be elected. This is made possible by gerrymandering, the "Citizens United" decision, the profit needs of the corporate media, and citizen apathy.

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Jason Brooks

2:22 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

Mr. Wilson - but idealism is what made this country great in the first place. Without high ideals, the Founders would've just said, "Eh, the King will just send his navy over here, blow our butts of the continent, and resettle with people who won't cross him. Why bother?"

I admit that my desire is beyond anything we currently have, and is unrealistic in its execution (very few people would be willing to open themselves up to true scrutiny). But settling for a cynical view that they system stinks is worse to me than pressing for a better ideal.

However, you do present accurate and challenging obstacles that would have to be overcome, and you're correct that citizen apathy makes any change nigh impossible.

But shouldn't we hope?

George Wilson

3:30 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@JasonBrooks
For example, Hispanics in Georgia have not registered to vote in large numbers and they are going to get the s#@t kicked out of them by politicians and the establishment until they do. Blacks should not rest on their gains because lurking around the corner are voter ID laws to restrict their power to vote ,if that fails than jail for smoking a joint and then take away the right to vote. better yet, lets take those prison inmates and put them to work harvesting crops now that all the Mexicans have been forced to leave. This is a real proposal that I have seen. Some would call it slavery.

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Racer X

7:46 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

George- Are you saying that making prison inmates work is a bad idea? Yes, some would call it slavery, and therein lies the rub. No matter what common sense solutions people come up with, there are those (who lack common sense) who will poo-poo those.solutions. Personally, I think that every prison inmate should be forced to work 60 hours a week like me.

George Wilson

3:33 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@JasonBrooks(sorry I left off part the statement)
@JasonBrooks
Our founding fathers were more concerned about their economic interests;ie,the slave question vs. the ideal of as stated in the declaration of Independence," all men all created equal". Nothing has changed economic issues come first. Hope comes from realizing that you are not going to get your share of the economic pie unless you have political power. For example, Hispanics in Georgia have not registered to vote in large numbers and they are going to get the s#@t kicked out of them by politicians and the establishment until they do. Blacks should not rest on their gains because lurking around the corner are voter ID laws to restrict their power to vote ,if that fails than jail for smoking a joint and then take away the right to vote. better yet, lets take those prison inmates and put them to work harvesting crops now that all the Mexicans have been forced to leave. This is a real proposal that I have seen. Some would call it slavery.

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OICUR12

3:50 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

George, why are blacks going to their power to vote restricted by ID laws. Isn't everyone in GA. required to show ID before voting?

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Racer X

7:48 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

George- OICUR12 has a good question.

George Wilson

4:20 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@OICUR12
Voter ID laws are being enacted all over the United States by Republican governments to try to suppress minority votes which tend to vote Democratic. .Florida and Pennsylvania have been in the news the most. For example, about 750000 minority voters don't drive a car in Philadelphia and therefore do not have a drivers license (picture ID)They will have to get one. All kinds of stories are immerging but I'll just give you just one. A person was delivered by a midwife in South Carolina and never had a birth certificate .He migrated to Philadelphia and used public transportation. He has no picture ID but had voted for many years. There are many other stories like this. The Republican speaker even bragged about this as an excellent tool to suppress the Democratic vote. The excuse for these laws was to prevent voter fraud even through no cases had been reported in Pennsylvania. These laws mainly affect students, minorities, and the elderly.Yes Georgia requires this and it does suppress the vote.

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OICUR12

4:37 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

I don't feel like there is enough voter fraud to influence the outcome unless very few are showing to vote. I think voter fraud may be exaggerated a bit. I do have a strong opinion about proving who you are before you can vote. It's no different than cashing a check, applying for credit, drivers license etc. Maybe there should be better procedures for elderly, disabled and the case you mentioned with no birth certificate. It should be some what easy for everyone to prove that they are a citizen. I have been applying for jobs recently and almost all applications ask about citizen status and race.

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DavidE

4:42 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

These same people can't get jobs without the ID. It is not hard to get a picture ID, my daughter had one at 13 years old. Without a birth certificate, they can't get a SSN, so pretty much they are screwed all around. Without that, they shouldn't be able to get any government assistance either.

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Jimmy

5:14 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

As usual, George is full crap. According to the 2010 census, there are only 1.5 million people in Philadelphia. 34% are under 18 (therefore not old enough to vote) and 41% are white. So for his claim to be true, basically every minority in Philly would have to be over 18 and not have a drivers license...Sorry George, try again.
In the meantime, maybe your imaginary mid-wifed, bus riding friend could figure out how to ride the bus to the nearest DMV and get his free ID card in lieu of a drivers license...
And if you're worried about the ability of floks around here to avail themselves of the same free govt ID card, why dont you volunteer some of your time to driving them to get it instead of sitting at the computer spreading falsehoods.

George Wilson

5:50 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@Jimmy
You seem to be proficient in the use of a computer so why don't you or anybody else just google "VOTER ID LAWS" and in particular look at what the conservative organization ALEC is doing.

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George Wilson

10:52 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

ALEC and the Republican party have been in the lead in enacting VOTER ID LAWS that suppress democratic voter turnout.Here is the latest update on ALEC:
More than half of the voter ID bills introduced in the last two years were sponsored by ALEC members or legislators who attended ALEC conferences.
At www.alecexposed.org, you will be able to find the other companies affiliated with ALEC as of 2011 and the corporations that have recently cut ties with the “shadowy corporate front group”.

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OICUR12

11:08 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

George, I have expressed my feelings about requiring identification to vote. Are you okay with unidentifiable individuals walking into polls to cast votes? If this is acceptable, what is the point having districts? What is the point in voting at all?

George Wilson

6:08 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@Jimmy,
I meant to say Pennsylvania 750,000 and 437000 in Philadephia either way it's still an outrage.

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George Wilson

6:29 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

The suppressive effects of VOTER ID LAWS are well-documented: 11 percent of Americans—approximately 23 million citizens of voting age—lack proper photo ID and, as a result, could be turned away from the polls on Election Day. Those without photo ID are disproportionately low-income, disabled, minority, young, and older voters. Numerous non-partisan organizations have debunked claims of widespread voter fraud, the purported basis for these laws. In 2011.
Republicans have advanced photo ID legislation in at least 35 states. If these 35 states enact a photo ID law, they collectively will spend at least $276 million, and possibly as much as $828 million, in the first four years alone. At a time when states are experiencing huge budget shortfalls, it would be an enormous waste to spend hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to disenfranchise voters as the Republicans are trying to do.

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Jimmy

9:21 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

GW, I appreciate your aknowledgement of the inflated Philadelphia/ Pennsyvania figures you cited above...But for all the debunked claims of widespread abuse you can cite, I can find you debunked claims of voter suppression...
The sanctity of the ballot box is one of the hallmarks of the American democratic experience. And you are positioning yourself against that. That is a losing proposition.
A few years ago many around the world watched as Iraqis voted for the first time in over a generation, and willfully inked their thumbs to prove it (and prevent voter fraud)...I'm sure you would object to inking your thumb, but the least you could do is show your free and easy to get photo ID....

OICUR12

6:53 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

If the suppressed individuals can't get to the ID gettin' place, how do they get to the polls? And what about absentee?
I personally don't want anyone voting unless they can prove that they are allowed to vote. We have laws against felons and I thought illegals.

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George Wilson

10:54 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

@OICUR12
Widespread voter fraud an excuse ginned up by the Republicans to enact voter suppression laws. Nothing more. Just another big lie repeated over and over despite studies and empirical evidence to the contrary.

Dave Emanuel

10:43 pm on Wednesday, August 22, 2012

As expected, the comments have degenerated into a "he said-she said" argument based on political beliefs. The reality of the quest for an honest politician (at the presidential level) is that hard core conservatives and liberals will remain faithful to their political philosophy and the independent and undecided voters, (who actually decide election outcomes) are too easily swayed by campaign rhetoric. History has proven that fence-sitting voters will select the candidate who best markets himself as the deliverer of an individual voter's wants. The candidate who claims he will cut taxes and increase benefits has always beaten the one who states the reality that you can't do both. So in essence, voters say, "tell me what I want to hear, even if it's impossible to achieve, and I'll vote for you", Anyone needing proof of that need look no further than our current president.

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Ed Varn

11:22 am on Thursday, August 23, 2012

Getting back to the original post, I think Romney should say, "I'll release the five years if you'll release your college transcripts."

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Racer X

8:10 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I have a theory and it is based on the book "Heart of Darkness" by Joseph Conrad, published in 1902.
Mankind is only as good, ultimately, as the level of accountability that is thrust on him. The larger the Government, the more complex the issues. The more complex the issues, the more difficult becomes accountability. The less accountable people are, the more corrupt they become. The larger the government, the less likely anyone will know a politician for his/her true self.
Words are just that. We all know, from the bible for example, that any given phrase can be interpreted and twisted to mean whatever the reader wants.
We learn much more by watching one's actions than listening to their words. With the government at it's current size and breadth, we cannot watch as individuals.
It seems to me that the only way we will ever know what is in the hearts of those who lead us is to make Federal Government much smaller and bring as much responsibility as possible back to the individual States.
As common citizens, we can monitor what is happening in our own State much more effectively than we can monitor the Feds. We would also be more empowered to do something regarding an issue we support/oppose.

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George Wilson

2:33 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Mike Horsman
Would this also apply to multi- national corporations? Many of these companies have larger earnings that the Gross National Product of some nations. Should we have some of these companies broken up or have more regulations and oversight. If the states can be monitored better than we are certainly doing a poor job in Georgia. The TSPLOST is a perfect example of elected officials that were too cowardly to make the tough calls on transportation and tried to put the decisions off on the voters.

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Racer X

3:18 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Hi George, I really don't know how to deal with multi-national corporations, honestly. I do understand that the Feds need to play a big role in our affairs. I just believe that role should be greatly reduced.
I agree that our State Govt. let us down on the whole T-SPLOST issue and thank God that it was put to the voters. We, after all, are the ones who count.
I was raised by conservatives and still tend to lean that way but the Republicans we have in office are nothing to write home about. I have very little faith in either party or anyone who is gung-ho about either one exclusively.
Cool tie.

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Larry Reid

3:28 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

"officials that were too cowardly to make the tough calls on transportation and tried to put the decisions off on the voters"

Good Grief! It's a good thing you don't make ANY decisions in our government George. You must eat, sleep and dream about government 24/7. In the case of Obama, I agree with you. The voters were smoking crack but in the case of TSPLOST, the voters were awake. Completely different voters mentality than those who trust in Hope and Change.

Sweet Dreams George

Racer X

8:12 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

As evidence I offer the recent defeat of the TSPLOST in Georgia. Georgians spoke and the politicians (90% of whom were for the TSPLOST) were forced to listen. I believe if this sort of proposal were set up at a Federal level, it would have been much easier for these politicians to sneak it by us, just as they have their raises, special retirement plans, special Health care plans, etc.
For those who want to blast me, please understand that I am just a mechanic, do not have a college education and do not consider myself the sharpest tool in the shed. I am only expressing my opinion as I see things and am open to any reasonable insight.

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Jeff Banks

8:30 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

If I might add to your analogy Mike. Another example of accountability with local government vs. federal: If a local politician (say our Governor) tried to cover up something like Fast and Furious, we would be on his door step everyday until we had some sort of action. In the case of Big Fed Government, the little people have very little if any influence to make things happen. We just have to sit back and watch Obama and Holder kick back, laugh at us with folded arms. That Sucks!

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Jack McClure

9:22 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Mike, I think I'm going to have a look @ that book! Thanks for posting about it.
I recently worked on a federal grant, and man was it ridiculously complicated. I'm trying to take the addage "All politics is local" to heart over the next two years. I find it helps me avoid going cross eyed, and to have more relevant conversations with my elected officials, since there are no rules saying they have to collaborate with each other.

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Dave Emanuel

10:45 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Mike- you are doing yourself a disservice. "I am just a mechanic..." That would imply that your opinion is less valuable than that of someone who has a college education. Having a college education does not imply that the recipient of said education has the intellect to understand what he knows. From what I've seen, your posts show more intelligence and understanding than those of some college-educated idiots I've seen.

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Racer X

2:12 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Thanks Jeff- That is another good analogy.
Jack- It really is a good book. You may have read it in High School and forgotten about it. It illustrates the ugly inherent nature of man if left to his own devices without any type of repercussion.
Dave- Thanks very much for the compliment. As a mechanic I have a need for things to work well. I always look at things and ask myself if they work or don't work. Fortunately, with cars, they always have a darn good reason for whatever they do. Because of that, with a little patience, I win every battle. People, on the other hand, are a whole different situation.

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Jack McClure

2:17 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Mike - As a non-mechanic, i have a need for my mechanic to be honest with me.

I find it a bit humorous that a mechanic (who often is cited as without integirty / honesty) is setting the tone for the honesty definition for a politician.

Keep up the good work - I will continue to try to be patient with my mechanic... and politician.

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George Wilson

2:59 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Leave it to Dave to inject some anti-intellectualism into the discussion.

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Dave Emanuel

3:02 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

And leave it to George to fail to understand the difference between education and intellect. Thanks for proving my point.

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Racer X

3:04 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Jack- You have a darn good point. At least mechanics are still ahead of lawyers on the trust-o-meter and more politicians are lawyers than anything else, or so I am told. I work on special cars that require the utmost trust and I protect that trust very carefully. Anyway, I have to get back to work. Cheers.

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George Wilson

5:37 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

@Jeff Banks
Corruption in Georgia stretches from the golden dome to the county courthouse and all controlled by Republicans. Some examples:
1.Senator Bob Balfours false expense reports
2.House speaker David Ralston's family vacation trip to Europe ($17,000)
paid for by lobbyist
3.Recent bribery issues with our own local county commissioners
4.Road being built close to former Gov. Perdue's property
5.Numerous tax exemptions given away to corporations as an example, Delta gets a sales tax exemption on sales tax for fuel...no other business does.
I have many more examples but you get the idea.Check out "ATLANTA UNFILTERED"on the Web.

Jack McClure

8:44 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

I'm confused here: Do you want accountability or integrity from your politicians?

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Racer X

2:14 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Integrity confirm-able through accountability. Trust everyone. Just don't trust the Devil inside them.

Jack McClure

9:01 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

From what I'm reading, you want rules to follow. From what I've seen recently, our local politicians are mostly unopposed this election cycle, so they're using it to bolster their public perception of themselves. To me, integrity is being able to have a straightforward and relevant conversation with a constituent, regardless of the bad news.

For accountability, I've been trying to come up with some sort of metric or way to measure it - how would you measure accountability here? For instance, if you vote for the TIA and then came out against T-SPLOST, is that two black eyes?

When the charter school vote comes up, if they voted for the law, but support the opposition, is that being accountable? We as a group often want things to be easily explained, and I find that we don't elect great communicators.

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Racer X

2:32 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Jack- By accountability I mean that I would like for more that happens to be transparently observable and more easily supported or protested. I cannot afford to take the time off work (eating my sandwich right now as it is) to go to DC to try to be heard, but I could go to Atlanta if need be. The problem with our Federal elected officials is that they cannot hear me as an individual. I really don't have a voice with them, not really. On a State level it is no picnic but I feel I would have a better chance of actively participating in what happens and understanding our regional activity better.
The Feds dole out programs applicable to every State when clearly each State has it's own different needs, wants, capabilities and handicaps. The current system of huge Federal Government does not seem to work well at all. In fact, it's very hard to know what works and doesn't work on a Federal level depending on which report you pay attention to and who is reading it, creating/maintaining confusion. This also keeps us divided as Americans and allows the Fed to grow even more.
It's easy to see why people are so apathetic these days, most likely figure there isn't a darn thing they can do about issues anyway. I know a lot of people who don't even vote anymore because of the helplessness they feel.

Sabrina Smith

9:01 am on Monday, August 27, 2012

Hi Mike and Jeff:

In some instances, I have found it difficult to get information on a local level. I have yet to get an explanation from Gwinnett County Public Schools of how they determined that they got $6 million for paying Gwinnett Chamber salaries.

I also tried for 6 months to get an explanation of what Gwinnett County got in return for paying the chamber $500,000 in 2011, and still have no explanation. Because of that, I had to file a complaint with the Georgia Government Transparency & Campaign Finance Commission. The county’s contract required the chamber to lobby for transportation issues, and reports made from the chamber to the county said:

“We have hired the campaign managers, polling firm, and professional fundraisers and will raise $6 million to fund grassroots to media campaign goals in the 10 counties. The Gwinnett Chamber/PG will lead local efforts to educate and advocate for the one cent sales tax for transportation through communication, a speakers bureau, and public meetings.”

What are we left to conclude when the county is silent after 6 months of attempting to get an explanation that would reasonably explain this? This is particularly disappointing after elected officials promised that their # 1 priority was restoring trust in government.

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Racer X

2:41 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Sabrina- In my opinion you are right. Not that we want to start a debate again about TSPLOST. Government is very scary these days. I don't know about you, but the results of the TSPLOST plan, which I voted against, is the first time I ever felt my vote has counted, and it felt good.
The fact that public monies were spent to try to brainwash that very public into thinking the TSPLOST was a good idea is appalling. At least we caught them at it and shut them down. On a Federal level, they could have spun the whole thing right past everybody because we would would still be trying to wade through the complexity of the bill to really know all of it's ramifications.

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Sabrina Smith

2:49 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

Hi Mike: I am afraid if we don't push back on allowing the Gwinnett Chamber to use tax dollars to lobby for a tax increase, we will see more of the same. I think all parents should be pushing Gwinnett County Public Schools to explain why giving education dollars to the chamber to pay salaries is more beneficial to students than using that money directly in the classroom. There are a lot of parents who have good ideas about how that $900,000 could have been spent to help students.

I think you are very well-educated in the ways that matter. As someone who used to teach college, I have seen many people who think they are smarter than others simply because they spent a lot of time taking classes.

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Racer X

3:20 pm on Monday, August 27, 2012

I am totally with you Sabrina and thanks for the compliment.

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George Wilson

12:46 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

@Sabrina Smith
I agree and please read my comment on "Corporate Welfare".

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Cheryl Miller

2:01 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Your statement sounds as if you believe that the TSPLOST vote you cast was the end of that story, but they are counting on the fact that you and everyone else will lose interest and assume it's a dead issue. Meanwhile, unless you know specifically who was responsible for the ideas behind the T-SPLOST, you really do not know if that was the last you will hear about it.

The federal government should be the least of your concerns when you live in the reportedly most corrupt state (ranking #50 out of 50) in the U.S. http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/03/22/americas-most-corrupt-states/

Jack McClure

12:10 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Mike - I took our conversation here and expanded on it a bit to see if we could try an expirement in accountability and integrity with my State Senator, Renee Unterman. She sits on the Committee on Assignments (Responsible for Leadership Appointments) and the Rules Committee. So, she is in a unique position to urge for Don Balfour to be removed as chairman from the Rules committee, as his ethics shennanigans have left the state senate's reputation in shambles.

http://buford.patch.com/blog_posts/accountability-ethics-reform-decision

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George Wilson

10:26 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012

Summary of Republican Convention:
Republicans complain that Democrats and Obama have not cleaned up the mess Republicans created quickly enough and told alot of verifiable lies in the process.Also picture Clint Eastwood with a voucher shopping for medical insurance to replace Medicare.See you in Charlotte.

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Larry Reid

10:53 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012

Good point George. Thankfully our wonderful free enterprise system has allowed Clint Eastwood to earn $375 million.

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George Wilson

12:33 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

Republican Corporate Welfare
Despite their frequently expressed laissez-faire beliefs, many Republican Governors have each presided over deals in which huge sums of taxpayer money have been handed over to large corporations in the name of economic development. The Romney campaign,had its convention themes delivered by some of the biggest proponents of corporate welfare.
South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley gave praise to Boeing, saying that her state "was blessed to welcome a great American company that chose to stay in our country to continue to do business." She failed to mention that Boeing's decision to locate its second Dreamliner assembly line in Charleston was more than a little influenced by a state and local subsidy package estimated to be worth more than $900 million.
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell -- who told the convention "Big government didn't build America!" -- agreed to give up to $14 million in subsidies to Northrop Grumman to relocate its headquarters to northern Virginia. The move was motivated by a need to be near the company's big customer, the Pentagon, so the subsidies were probably unnecessary and could be seen as a reward for the large contributions the company made to his election campaign.
Ohio Gov. John Kasich, demands by companies threatening to move their operations out of state unless they got big subsidy deals. Kasich's administration negotiated $100 million packages with both Diebold Inc. and American Greetings Corp.I could site many more.

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Racer X

1:07 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

George- The man who thinks he knows everything, usually knows nothing.

Tammy Osier

1:34 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

George said: "Blacks should not rest on their gains because lurking around the corner are voter ID laws to restrict their power to vote". Explain to us exactly what this means. It's not the first time that you've implied that minorities (especially blacks) can't do something because of an evil republican. If poverty is a problem (knows no racial boundaries in case you didn't know that), then we have programs for poor americans of all races and creeds if they have a need. We also have churches looking to help their fellow man everywhere. That is, if they are poor (which is more likely the elderly before it will be a minority). I wonder if you realize how condescending this must be to a black american to hear you say something like that. All the black folk I know have good jobs, nice cars and decent families. Not sure I'm getting what you're trying to say. Could you please explain (and don't use the very discredited huffington post for your quotes please). :)
And, Dave, injecting anti-intellectualism into a discussion?????? Go read that again. He was saying that the average hard working man is something to be proud of. You had a problem with that??? Oh wait...lol

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Dave Emanuel

5:59 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

Tammy- your wasting your time. If Fidel Castro, Adolph Hitler or anyone else of their ilk were a candidate of the Democrat party, George would be singing their praises.

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George Wilson

1:24 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

@Tammy Osier
"From what I've seen, your posts show more intelligence and understanding than those of some college-educated idiots I've seen."
Dave was putting down an education which I personally value highly.One of the brightest minds in our country was a man named Eric Hoffman.He was a self educated dock worker in California.He wrote many books.One I remember very well was called "The True Believer". I would suggest that you read the book.

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George Wilson

6:46 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

@Tammy Osler Correction
The author is ERIC HOFFER sorry I was in a hurry.

Tammy Osier

1:39 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

...and btw...that mechanic deserves to make a lot of money doing a service that I can't do for myself. If you can do his job, then welcme to it. But if you can't...pay a professional.
I do my job the best that i can and people pay me for my skills. I don't get paid much, so my dividends come from the satisfaction I get for doing my job well. Of course, it does bite a bit when my pocketbook gets raided by federal politicians for yet another tax.

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George Wilson

1:34 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

@Dave Emanuel & Mike Horsman

Argumentum Ad Hominen is a fallacy in argument .Either argue the point or quit with the school yard blather. It hurts your credibility.

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Cheryl Miller

2:10 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

No one deserves to make a lot of money, but everyone deserves the opportunity to make a decent living and support their family, educate their children, keep a roof over their heads and food in the fridge. If you work on cars or someone else's investment accounts, it is just a way to earn a living and everyone should put ethics and integrity into what they do, not matter what that job might be, or else you have no reason to expect the same in return from your local politicians. Government is as much about "us" as it is about "them." Unless we give up the right to vote or simply stop exercising that right, we still hold the power of accountability over the heads of those who are supposed to represent us. If we continue to sit back and hope for the best, we can expect more o the same. If we stop looking for the problems and start finding solutions, we can get the corrupt out of office and make informed choices at each and every election. Sadly, with regard to the charter schools, the majority of voters decided it would be easier to just give up the right to vote and hope for the best. So, we can all look forward to more of the same while our children pay the price.

George Wilson

4:54 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

@Tammy Osier
Your comments make no sense to me and also attempts to distort and juxtaposition my remarks. Please read again. I'm not sure you understand. These new voter suppression laws are of a great concern not only to minorities but to everyone that believes in democracy. For a better understanding just google "VOTER ID LAWS" as a starter. More later.

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Larry Reid

5:12 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

George, do you have to show your ID to vote? That's right. You do. I do too and so should everyone else.

Period!

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John B

5:31 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

@ George...you don't understand Tammy's comments? Good grief. Please tell your mom to tighten your chin strap. Your helmet continues to fall off and the pavement is quite hard...Get it?

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Racer X

9:00 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

George- You are blinded by your giant brain. It does not matter WHO is pushing for voter ID requirements, it's just the common sense thing to do. Did you lose every shred of common sense when you grew your humongous noggin?
I cannot explain this using $64.00 words so I will keep it short instead. I have lived all over the US and have met very few people who don't possess an ID. Those few people did not possess an ID for nefarious reasons, NOT because they were Black or Green or Yellow.
Now, does it not seem strange to you that your party feels they need the votes of people who are unaccountable to win an election for our President? Is that not one of the most suspicious things you have ever heard of?
You say this policy is racist. Are you saying Black people are less likely to have ID? Why is that? Because they are Black? Isn't that a pretty negative thing to say about Black people? Has your tie cut off circulation to your head? What, exactly is wrong with you?

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Sandy

9:21 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

I've had an ID since I was 16 years old. George does have an odd opinion.

George Wilson
4:46 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Understanding the demographics of the Republican convention:
1.Social Conservatives
2.Plutocrats
3.Aggrieved whites (Talk radio listeners)
4.DixieRepubs (former Dixiecrats) Some similarities with # 3
5.Token Hispanic,women,and African Americans (we need to get a little market share of these groups)

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Larry Reid

9:42 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012

But Sandy, George explained what he meant by calling "groups" tokens.

"The definition of tokenism: "The policy of attempting to meet certain obligations or conditions by symbolic or token efforts"

George, isn't this what Obama is doing by giving illegal immigrants deferred status?

George Wilson

12:40 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

@ Sandy
The Republicans have figured out that one way to suppress the traditional Democratic vote is to require photo ID to vote.Let me use the state of Pennsylvania as an example where about 750,000 voters are affected.About 437000 minority, and elderly,voters don't drive a car in Philadelphia they use public transportation and therefore do not have a drivers license (picture ID)They will have to get one. All kinds of stories are immerging how difficult this is, but I'll just give you just one. A person was delivered by a midwife in South Carolina and never had a birth certificate .He migrated to Philadelphia and used public transportation. He has no picture ID but had voted for many years.He will now have to get a picture ID but a birth certificate is required and he doesn;t have one.Hence he cannot vote. There are many other stories like this. The Republican speaker in Pennsylvania even bragged about this as an excellent tool to suppress the Democratic vote. The excuse for these laws was to prevent voter fraud even through no cases had been reported in Pennsylvania. These laws mainly affect students, minorities, and the elderly.On a positive note ,the courts have struck down some of these voter ID laws as being unconstitutional in Texas, Alabama, and parts of Florida .Keep in mind ,that these right wing tactics are being pushed by an organization known as ALEC (American Legislative Executive Council) funded by people like the Koch brothers and big corporations.

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George Wilson

12:49 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

The suppressive effects of VOTER ID LAWS are well-documented: 11 percent of Americans—approximately 23 million citizens of voting age—lack proper photo ID and, as a result, could be turned away from the polls on Election Day. Those without photo ID are disproportionately low-income, disabled, minority, young, and older voters. Numerous non-partisan organizations have debunked claims of widespread voter fraud, the purported basis for these laws. In 2011.
Republicans have advanced photo ID legislation in at least 35 states. If these 35 states enact a photo ID law, they collectively will spend at least $276 million, and possibly as much as $828 million, in the first four years alone. At a time when states are experiencing huge budget shortfalls, it would be an enormous waste to spend hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to disenfranchise voters as the Republicans are trying to do.

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Racer X

11:15 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

George,
You can spout numbers all you want but can you give me a name of someone you know that does not have an ID? Your argument is empty and without any semblance of substance.
Again, the only people I have ever met who had no ID have been people of nefarious character.
What kind of a candidate cannot win an election without the votes of people who are unverifiable?
What are we supposed to think of this kind of candidate?
Can you get real for just a minute?

George Wilson

1:09 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012

@ all
I have no problem with a voter ID card but they should be free and easy to get. The state should devote all the resources to insure that the groups most affected not only have a voter ID card but are registered to vote as well. The requirements should be to not put an undue burden on the citizens as some states have tried to do. Our problem is not people voting illegally. It is low voter turnout ,look at the last election.

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Cheryl Miller

2:15 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

There are plenty of elderly in this country who no longer drive and therefore they do not have a driver's license. What exactly do you think should be the cutoff age when it becomes okay for the government to take your rights away from you, Racer X?

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Racer X

8:26 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

Cheryl Miller, my own mother is 84 years old, has not driven in over 10 years and still carries identification. You use a lot of words to say very little.

Cheryl Miller

2:13 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012

We should be embarrassed to see how American Idol manages to get a high voter turnout and surprisingly acceptable results consistently, yet we cannot find a way to prevent four hour lines at the polls for a Presidential election we should have known was coming up and how many estimated voters there would be at each location.

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